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Juggler interview (specijalno za Budi-Moja.com forum)
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25-07-07, 21:22
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Juggler interview (specijalno za Budi-Moja.com forum)
Evo i to konecno. Intervju sa Juggler (na engleskom jezik)
Prevod na srpskom ima ispod... Ako ima dobrovolec da go prevede na makedonski, neka napravi prevod slobodno. Alek: Let’s start with the interview. Juggler : Okay then, let me take my pants off. Darko : We've all been told how important it is to have a mentor in any personal development quest. Some even claim it's the only way to reach mastery. Were there any big influences on your path, and if so how important were they? Juggler : A good question. I didn't have a mentor. I think I would have been better off if I had in some ways but I guess I was too headstrong to listen to anyone. I had to find my own way. To this date I don't read much of personal development. I want my stuff to be original. Maybe that is why it is so different than much of the other stuff in the community. I some times seem like I'm on crack. I think in general there are too few individual, original personalities in the world. When I find someone who is different I think wow! Alek : Do you think not having a mentor affected how long it took you to reach that point? Or was it perhaps more beneficial since it allowed creativity? Juggler : It took longer for sure. I reinvented a lot of wheels. But when I die I want them to play that song, 'I did it my way' Frank Sinatra Alek : Awesome Juggler : A PUA is an artist right? Got to be creative mofo or what's the point. I always took the 'artist' part seriously. I am still thinking up new shit that may or may not 'work' but is at least new. Alek : Indeed Wayne, indeed. Beautiful answer…But let's switch back to those who do not even care about what a "PUA" is. Juggler : Who are those? I will kill them. Alek : As you are well aware most men on this planet will never take upon this path... because they believe it's not even possible for someone average to reach those levels of dating success. Can you give us a small description of your dating/love-life in comparison to an average person before you decided to -consciously- set about in improving it. And what was the main motivation? Juggler : Before I was lonely for female companionship. I just wanted a girlfriend so I wouldn't be alone. Eventually I got a girlfriend but then she left me because I was needy. So I came up with a plan... I would get two girlfriends. Alek : How grandiose Juggler : That way if one left I would not be very alone. But... I found out that even with two girlfriends, when I lost one I was sad and afraid. So I came up with another plan... I would get three girlfriends. Alek : [laughs]: very logical thinking Juggler : But then the same thing happened. I would lose one and be devestated. So... Juggler : I realized that was a path to madness. I had to learn to be alone. Funny thing is, when I accepted my aloneness I became much better at attracting women because I was not as needy. I lived the philosophy that I was going to have maximum fun with whomever I was with at the moment. I think most guys who come into this are looking to fill a void instead of understanding that that void can never be filled by other people. Anyway, not to get all philosophical. Next question. Alek : Exactly, and that ties us into our next question: We are told that this is a long and sometimes challenging path. How long did it take you to first: reach a point where you could say "Wow, I am actually content with my love-life now" Secondly: How long did it take before people started viewing you as a good mentor, someone they could learn from? Juggler : 15 years. If you are an old guy you may want to forget about it. You could die first. Alek : It's a pressing question on the mind of many beginners. A lot of them are looking for the overnight quick fix. Juggler : I have been working on people skills stuff since I was 16 and I still do. I am 38 now. But the new guys don't have to go through what I did. They have short cuts and all these 'mentors'. I don't know how long it would take most guys. Depends on the goal. You can look at this as a life long pursuit - mastering people skills which is what PU really is could be a goal without end. But let's say a guy wants to be able pick up a girl in a bookstore or club and get her number and later get physical. To get so you could PU one girl a day I would say 3 - 6 months of practice. But who knows, it varies. Most guys could help themselves by just the basics. Alek : As you have mentioned though, things have really changed in the past 15 years. Today, those venturing upon this path encounter a very different world than you did. When you started this, there was very little help. No workshops and a very little knowledgebase. In fact, you invented a lot of today's knowledge yourself. Today there are a countless number of differing methods, rules, workshops, e-books, DVDs and seminars: all of them with conflicting and some even dogmatic messages. Instead of creating an easier path, today it creates men who spend years looking for the quick fix, with an utter confusion and no concrete path to take. What is your view on this? Juggler : Yeah, things have changed in the past 5 years thanks to the internet. Alek : How does one find the "basics" in this internet-created information overload? Juggler : I don't know. The basics to me are talking loud enough, keeping your hands down. Not asking close-ended questions, stuff like that. Most guys could also do well if they just said, "I like talking with you but I'm kinda shy." Alek : Keep it simple. Never fails to work. Juggler : The biggest problem is guys trying to show value or impress chicks. There are hundreds of programs on the internet to teach a better way of proving yourself. We need to get out of that dynamic. Alek : Yes. Indeed. You, Wayne are quite famous actually for sthis. Infact, Charisma Arts is notorious for causing a revolution in the "game" movement through creating the so-called "natural game" approach. It single-handedly shifted the paradigm from a technique-obsessed machine-like approach to a more relaxed and elegantly simplified method. The problem some can point out is almost going to the other extreme and leaving things much more vague and undefined. How is what you teach different than mainstream messages such as "just be yourself and all will handle itself", and how can you transfer this skill to people with so little in the terms of specifics? Juggler : We get into more specifics when we train a guy. There are actually a bunch of techniques to being yourself. ![]() Juggler : Do you guys know the Space Alien metaphor? Alek : Not really. Go ahead. Juggler : Well who here believes that space aliens come down to visit our planet and periodically take people away? Alek : Igrac. Igrac: [laughs] Juggler : Imagine if your task was to convince your friends that aliens were coming here and being naughty. Would that be an easy task or a hard one? Alek : Again, depends on their gullability, and our ability to influence and convince. Juggler : Sure, but for me that would be difficult. But now compare that task to instead trying to convince your friends that you believe in space aliens. Alek : Pretty darn easy. Juggler : That task is much easier I believe. Alek : Or atleast much easier. Yes. Juggler : Sure. So now imagine sitting across from a hot girl. Your job is not to convince her that she is sexy. That would be difficult. Your job is to convince her that she has an effect on you – which is that you are turned on by her. That is a much easier task. Alek : I see your point. How does this relate to simplifying things vs. specifics? Juggler : That is the basis of how we begin to teach the SOI at CA. There is a specific way to say that. I say to her, "There is something about you that is turning me on. It must be your vibe. Stop vibing me or I can't be held responsible for my actions. See you are dong it again. People do not believe in altruism. People do not trust altruism. But they believe and trust greed. When you show what you get out of it, when you show how it effects you, you become a more powerful and believable person. Alek : Are you saying that the only way such a simpler and more elegant method can be taught is in person, since it requires more calibration. Juggler : No just that I have a lot of shit to say. Some of it stupid and some of it very specific, stuff that will change your life. But who knows.... not enough time in my life time. I have a lot of things I want to do. I'm sad. Alek : Let's shift gears a little. A lot of guys who get on this path, whether it be thru your method or one of the more complex ones... can tend to get too much into this. They make their entire life revolve around becoming a "PUA". If you had to start all over again, how would you manage your time? How many percent would you invest in "pushing yourself out to go and practice meeting women", how much would you spend learning and reading about the subject, and how much time would you spend in everything else (i.e. building a cool lifestyle). Juggler : 45 minutes a day for going out and practicing meeting the chickies. That is all you need. That is what I did. Avoid the 10-2 shift. The rest I would spend watching TV. Alek : Or an Xbox these days Juggler : I also tell guys not to talk or study pick up before they go out. Only do that when they get back for a few minutes. Alek : Very practical advice indeed Alek : Does this mean you enjoy teaching for the sake of teaching, and is CharismaArts more than a Business. Is it a way of sharing knowledge and how much do you enjoy the teaching itself. What were the top 3 most useful mistakes you made in creating and running CharismaArts? Juggler : I like teaching. CA is a way to influence the world. But we will always be a small company compared to some of the other guys because I don't care to work that hard at being a businessman and making money. The 3 biggest mistakes I made running CA... Taking a client, I have one in particular in mind, who was not the right person to be taking our training. I needed the money at the time. Big mistake. Never place money over doing the right thing. I believe in turning down clients these days. Guys will call me and ask about signing up for a boot camp and I will talk them out of it. I will tell him to take 3 months to think it over. You know what happens then? Alek : They succeed on their own? Juggler : They become my friend. They trust me. And, sure many succeed on their own. Who knows? Some sign up later or go to a competitor. I don't really know. I should follow up with those guys more. But in general I am surprised by CA's success. We do no or little marketing. It s mostly word of mouth and some of the media we have done. I have no idea where our clients come from. Alek : I can see your point, but perhaps running a business is not such a bad thing. It helps get the message across to more people. And let's face it, if every man on this planet were a sexually confident, "charming conversationalist", the world would be a much much better place to live in. Juggler : Yes, you are right Alek. Alek : Let's wrap this up. Our last question concerns a new trend in "the community" Juggler : Wearing flannel? Alek : A very current and popular "magic bullet" that is spreading throughout the dating movement for men is this idea of super-sexual blunt directness. The idea that this current trend propagates is that conversations, deeper connections and being a social person in general... is only a waste of time, you should skip everything and go "straight for the kill". If you got a woman, you would have gotten her anyway if you had just gone straight to asking for what you want (general sexual interest verbally displayed). And if you can't get her in this way, you couldn't have gotten her in any other way (genuine interest or not). What is your opinion on this? Juggler : I think that showing sexual interest always beats not showing sexual interest. The most important thing is that she believes you. See the Space Alien metaphor above. You can show sexual interest right away and it can be a good thing if she believes that your interest is sincere. When do you show sexual interest? When it is believable… If you are skilled you can pull that off in some situations very early. You just got to make her feel that she has won this interest and that it affects you in a specific way. Igrac: JM is direct with a few seconds delay? Juggler : JM is “intelligently direct” Alek : Very nice. Igrac : cool Alek : With that question answered, I think it's time to wrap it all up. Wayne, thank you for taking the time to do this interview. Your interview will be published on the budi-moja official forum and translated into the Croatian language. Once again, thank you for the time taken to answer the questions from our members. We wish you even more success with your teaching ventures. Thanks again for this opportunity. Juggler : Okay, I'm pulling my pants up now. Evo i video od jugglerovi workshop: http://www.miloop.se/film_view.aspx?movie=11346 |
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26-07-07, 12:58
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Juggler is cool man. Thanks for this guys.
U igri zavodjenja, postoji samo jedno pravilo: Nikad se NE zaljubi. |
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26-07-07, 16:03
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Kakav si ti partner,kad mi nisi reko, da ćeš pričat sa Juggom?
Alek ne volim te više nimalo .
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26-07-07, 16:16
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Ma nije, nego pazi sta ce da kaze
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26-07-07, 17:05
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Sin Wrote:Kakav si ti partner,kad mi nisi reko, da ćeš pričat sa Juggom? Lol, proveri skype log Reko sam ti, ali imas mali attention span hehe
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20-03-08, 15:09
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Evo i to konačno. Prijevod Intervjua sa Jugglerom
Alek: Krenimo s intervjuom Juggler: Ok, evo samo da skinem hlače Darko: Svi smo čuli kako je važno imati mentora na bilo kojem području osobnog razvoja. Neki tvrde da je to i jedini način dostizanja majstorskih vještina (mastera). Jesu li postojali ljudi s velikim utjecajem na tvom putu, te koliko su bili važni? Juggler. Dobro pitanje. Nisam imao mentora. Mislim da bi u nekim stvarima bilo bolje da sam ga imao, no valjda sam bio previše tvrdoglav da bi nekoga slušao. Morao sam pronaći svoj put. Do sada nisam čitao mnogo o osobnom razvoju. Želim da moje stvari budu originalne. Možda je to razlog zašto se toliko razlikuju od ostalih stvari u zajednici. Ponekad djelujem kao da sam na cracku. Mislim da generalno premalo originalnih osobnosti na svijetu. Kad nabasam na nekog tko je drugačiji pomislim, OPA! Alek: Misliš li da je nedostatak mentora utjecao na vrijeme potrebno da dostigneš tu točku? Ili njegovu odsutnost smatraš korisnom, jer ti je omogućila kreativnost? Juggler: Sigurno je trajalo duže. Često sam izmišljao toplu vodu. Ali kad umrem želim da mi sviraju pjesmu „I did it my way“ (napravio sam to po svojem) od Franka Sinatre. Alek: Ludo Juggler: PUA je umjetnik jel da? Bora biti kreativan jer inače nema smisla. Uvijek sam dio izraza „artist“ (umjetnik) shvaćao ozbiljno. Još uvijek smišljam nove fore koje možda hoće, a možda i neće funkcionirati, al su bar nove. Alek: Zaista Wayne, zaista. Prekrasan odgovor….Ali ajmo se vratiti na ljude koje ne zanima što je PUA. Juggler: Tko su ti, da ih ubijem? Alek: Jesi li svjestan da većina muškaraca ovog planeta nikad neće krenuti ovim stopama… jer ne vjeruju da je moguće prosječnoj osobi dostići takav nivo uspjeha u izlascima. Možeš li nam ukratko opisati svoje izlaske/ljubavni život u usporedbi s prosječnom osobom, prije nego si ih odlučio svjesno poboljšati? I koja je bila glavna motivacija za to? Juggler: Prije sam žudio za ženskim društvom. Samo sam želio djevojku, da ne bi bio sam. S vremenom sam pronašao djevojku, no ostavila me jer sam bio previše zahtjevan. Zato sam skovao plan… Naći ću dvije djevojke. Alek: Kako grandiozno. Juggler: Na taj način ako me jedna ostavi, ne bi se osjećao jako usamljen. No… saznao sam da me i u tom slučaju hvata tuga i strah . Pa sam skovao još jedan plan…. Naći ću tri djevojke. Alek:[smijeh]: vrlo logično zaključivanje Juggler: Ali opet se dogodila ista stvar. Gubitak jedne bi me potpuno uništio. Pa…. sam shvatio da je to put do ludila. Morao sam naučiti biti sam. Smješno je što sam s prihvaćanjem samoće postao puno bolji u privlačenju žena, jer ih više nisam toliko trebao. Živio sam po filozofiji maksimalnog zabavljanja s bilo kim u datom trenutku. Mislim da većina ljudi koji uđu u ovo, žele ispuniti prazninu, a bez da shvaćaju kako tu prazninu za njih nikako ne mogu ispuniti drugi ljudi. No da previše ne filozofiramo. Sljedeće pitanje. Alek: Točno tako, i to nas veže uz sljedeći upit: Rečeno nam je da je ovo dugačak i ponekad izazovan put. Koliko ti je trebalo da prvo: dostigneš točku u kojoj si mogao reći:“Konačno sam zadovoljan sa svojim ljubavnim životom“ i drugo: Koliko je trebalo da te drugi ljudi počnu gledati kao dobrog mentora, nekoga od koga mogu učiti? Juggler: 15 godina. Ako spadaš u starije tipove, možda bi bilo bolje da to zaboraviš. Moglo bi ti se dogoditi da prije otegneš papke. Alek: To je pitanje koje mući mnoge početnike. Mnogi traže promjenu preko noći. Juggler: Razvijam svoje međuljudske odnose od 16. godine sve do danas. A trenutno imam 38 g. No novi dečki ne moraju prolaziti što sam prolazio ja. Imaju prečace i sve te 'mentore'. Ne znam koliko bi većini trebalo. Ovisi o cilju. Možeš to gledati kao cjeloživotnu potragu – svladavanje vještina međuljudskih odnosa, što PU stvarno jest, može biti cilj bez kraja. No recimo da dečko samo želi biti u stanju priči curi u knjižari ili klubu i uzeti njen broj te se kasnije spetljati s njom. Da bi mogao pokupiti po jednu curu svaki dan, rekao bi da treba 3-6 mjeseci prakse. Ali tko zna, ovo varira. Mnogi si mogu pomoći već poznavanjem osnova. Alek : No spomenuo si da su se stvari stvarno promijenile u proteklih 15 godina. Oni koji se danas upuštaju kročiti ovim putem, nailaze na drugačiji svijet nego što si ti. Kada si počeo s ovim, nije bilo mnogo pomoći. Niti radionica i baza korisnih informacija je bila malena. Zapravo, ti si formirao veliku količinu danas poznatog znanja. Danas postoje bezbrojne različite metode, pravila, radionice, e-knjige, DVD-i i seminari: s međusobno suprotstavljenim i ponekad dogmatičnim porukama. Umjesta stvaranja lakšeg puta, ljudima koji žele na brzinu razviti vještinu, uzrokuje zbunjenost i izgubljenost. Koji je tvoj pogled na ovo? Juggler: Da, stvari su se promijenile u zadnjih 5 godina zahvaljujući internetu. Alek: Kako naći „osnove“ u informacijski preopterećenom svijetu stvorenim internetom? Juggler. Ne znam. Osnove meni predstavlja glasno pričanje, držanje ruku spuštenih uz tijelo. Izbjegavanje pitanja zatvorenog tipa (pitanja na koja postoje unaprijed poznati odgovori tipa da-ne op.prev.), i tome slično. Mnogim dečkima bi koristilo i da jednostavno kažu, „Volim pričati s tobom, no nekako sam sramežljiv“. Alek: Jednostavnost uvijek funkcionira. Juggler: Najveći problem su tipovi koji pokušavaju pokazati veličinu i impresionirati ženske. Na internetu postoje stotine programa koje podučavaju kako se dokazivati. Trebamo se izvući iz tog ustroja. Alek: Da, zaista. Ti si Wayne zapravo prilično poznat po ovome. Naime, Umjetnost Karizme (CharizmaArts) je čuvena po revolucionarnom utjecaju na pokret zagovornika „igre“ (gamea) zbog stvaranja takozvanog „prirodnog“ (natural) pristupa. Samostalno je promijenila paradigmu s pristupa tehnikom-opsjednut-stroj prema opuštenijoj i elegantno pojednostavljenijoj metodi. Neki navode kako je ovdje problem odlazak u drugi ekstrem u kojem su stvari nejasne i neodređene. Kako se ono što ti učiš razlikuje od uobičajenih poruka tipa „samo budi svoj i sve će se riješiti“, i kako prenosiš tu vještinu ljudima uz tako malo specifičnih osobina. Juggler: Ulazimo u specifičnosti dok treniramo čovjeka. Zapravo postoji niz tehnika posvećenih tome kako biti svoj. Dečki, znate li izvanzemaljac metaforu? Alek: Baš i ne. Nastavi. Juggler: Tko ovdje vjeruje da izvanzemaljci posjećuju naš planet i periodično otimaju ljude? Alek: Igrac. Igrac: [smijeh] Juggler: Zamislite da vam je zadatak uvjeriti prijatelje kako su izvanzemaljci dolazili i radili pizdarije. Bi li to bio lagan ili težak zadatak? Alek: Opet, ovisi o njihovoj lakovjernosti i našoj sposobnosti utjecanja i uvjeravanja. Juggler: Naravno, no za mene bi to bilo teško. No usporedite sad taj zadatak s pokušajem da ih uvjerite kako vi vjerujete u izvanzemaljce. Alek: Vraški lako. Juggler: Mislim da je taj zadatak puno lakši. Alek: U najmanju ruku puno lakši. Da. Juggler: Naravno. Sada zamisli da sjediš nasuprot komada. Tvoj posao nije da ju uvjeriš kako je ona sexy. To bi bilo teško. Tvoj posao je uvjeriti je da ona utječe na tebe – odnosna da te pali. To je mnogo lakši zadatak. Alek: Razumijem te. Kako se ovo odnosi na sukob između pojednostavljivanja stvari i konkretnog učenja? Juggler: To je osnova na kojoj počinjemo pudučavati SOI na CA. Postoji određen način da se to kaže. Ja joj kažem: „Imaš nešto što me uzbuđuje. Mora da se radi o tvojim vibracijama. Prestani me cimati jer inače neću biti odgovoran za svoje postupke. Gle, opet si to napravila“. Ljudi ne vjeruju u altruizam (nesebično pomaganje drugima op. prev.)“. Ljudi ne vjeruju altruizmu. No vjeruju i uzdaju se u pohlepu. Kada pokažeš što dobivaš iz toga, kada pokažeš kako to utječe na tebe, postaješ moćnija osoba kojoj je lakše vjerovati. Alek: Hoćeš reći da je, zbog veće potrebe za baždarenjem, jedini način za učenje takve jednostavnije i elegantnije metode učenje uživo? Juggler. Ne, samo da imam mnogo toga za reći. Neke vrlo glupe i neke vrlo konkretne stvari koje promijene život. No tko zna…nema dovoljno vremena u mom životnom vijeku. Puno je stvari koje želim učiniti. Zbog toga sam žalostan. Alek: Ajmo malo okrenuti priču. Mnogi koji dođu na ovaj put, bilo da se radi o tvojoj ili nekoj kompleksnijoj metodi… imaju tendenciju da time postanu preokupirani. Cijeli im se život počne vrtjeti oko toga da postanu „PUA“. Kad bi morao krenuti ispočetka, kako bi rasporedio svoje vrijeme? Koji postotak vremena bi posvetio „prisiljavanju sebe da izlaziš van i vježbaš upoznavanje sa ženama“, koliko bi ga proveo učeći i čitajući o temi, a koliko vremena bi trošio na sve ostalo (gradeći strašan stil života) . Juggler: 45 minuta na dan na izlazak i vježbanje upoznavanja ženskica. To ti je dovoljno. To sam radio ja. Izbjegavaj 10-2 sranje (učenje. Škola traje od 10 do 2 op. prev.). Ostatak vremena bi proveo gledajući TV. Alek: Ili s Xboxom u novije vrijeme. Juggler: Također govorim ljudima da ne proučavaju i ne pričaju o „pick upu“ prije nego izlaze. To treba raditi samo kad se vratiš i to na par minuta. Alek: Stvarno praktičan savjet. Znači li to da voliš podučavati radi podučavanja, i da ti je „CharicmaArts“ više od posla? Je li to način razmjene znanja i pokazatelj koliko je voliš podučavati. Koje su bile 3 najkorisnije pogreške koje si napravio pri stvaranju i vođenju „CharicmaArtsa“? Juggler: Volim podučavati. Pomoću CA se utjeće na svijet. No uvijek ćemo ostati mala firma u usporedbi s nekim drugim ljudima, jer mi nije toliko stalo naporno raditi i biti biznismen koji zgrće lovu. Tri najveće greške u vođenju CA… Odabiranje klijenta, mislim posebno na jednog, koji nije bio prava osoba za trening. U tom trenutku sam trebao novce. Velika greška. Nikad nemoj postavljati novce ispred ispravnog postupanja. Sada vjerujem u odbijanje klijenata. Ljudi me zovu da ih primim u kamp, a ja ih od toga odgovaram. Kažem im da uzmu 3 mjeseca te dobro promisle. I znaš što se onda dogodi? Alek: Uspiju samostalno? Juggler: Postanu mi prijatelji. Vjeruju mi. I svakako, mnogi uspiju samostalno. Tko zna? Neki se kasnije upišu ili odu konkurenciji. Pouzdano ne znam. Trebao bih bolje pratiti njihov put. No generalno sam iznenađen s uspjehom CA. Skoro se uopće ne reklamiramo. Uglavnom se radi o prepričavanju ljudi i nekim medijskim materijalima koje smo napravili. Nemam pojma od kud nam klijenti dolaze. Alek: Razumijem te, no možda vođenje posla i nije tako loša stvar. Pomaže u prenošenju poruke većem broju ljudi. I priznajmo, kad bi svaki čovjek imao seksualno pouzdanje i vodio „šarmantne razgovore“, svijet bi bio mnogo bolji za život. Juggler: Da, imaš pravo Alek. Alek: Završimo. Zadnje pitanje tiće se novog trenda u „zajednici“ Juggler: Nošenja flanel odjeće? Alek: Odnedavno aktualnog i popularnog „magičnog metka“ koji se širi među muškom izlazećom zajednicom je ideja super-seksualne bezobzirne izravnosti. Ideja koju ovaj trend prenosi ja da razgovor, dublje veze i u općenitom smislu socijalno ponašanje…. Predstavlja gubitak vremena, te da bi sve to trebalo preskočiti i izravno „zgrabiti za vrat“. Ako imaš ženu, imao bi ju i da si izravno pitao ono što želiš (verbalno pokazivanje općenitog seksualnog interesa). A ako ju ne možeš dobiti na ovaj način, ne bi ju mogao dobiti ni na bilo koji drugi (bez obzira na postojanje istinite zainteresiranosti). Koje je tvoje mišljenje o ovom? Juggler: Mislim da je pokazivanje seksualnog interesa uvijek bolje od ne pokazivanja. Najvažnije je da ti vjeruje. Pogledaj spomenutu metaforu izvanzemaljca. Možeš odmah pokazati seksualni interes, te to može biti dobra stvar ukoliko vjeruje da si iskren. Kada pokazati seksualni interes? Kad je to lako za povjerovati… Ako si vješt, u nekim situacijama ovo možeš izvesti vrlo brzo. Zbog tvog ponašanja mora osjetiti da te je uspjela zainteresirati i da na tebe ostavlja poseban utisak. Igrac: JM je izravan sa zadrškom od samo nekoliko sekundi. Juggler: JM je „inteligentno izravan“. Alek: Jako lijepo Igrac: Cool Alek: S tim pitanjem, mislim da je vrijeme da završimo. Wayne, hvala ti što si pronašao vremena za ovaj intervju. Tvoj intervju će biti objavljen na budi-moja službenom forumu i preveden na hrvatski jezih. Još jednom, hvala ti za vrijeme provedeno u odgovaranju na pitanja naših članova. Želimo ti još više uspjeha u pothvatima podučavanja. Hvala na ovoj prigodi. Svakim danom u svakom pogledu sve više napredujem! |
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20-03-08, 22:07
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Odlican intervju, sad sam iscitao kompletan i ima pametnih misli zaista, narocito ona metafora za vanzemaljce kao i to koliko vremena treba provesti za sarge, koliko za sve ostalo, i najbitnije - da nema tu price pre sarge-a, tek nesto malo posle njega, sumiranje utisaka i slicno
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20-03-08, 23:01
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Kao sto vidite, Juggler je veliki lik i zajebant i zaista ga puno cenim. Bilo je uzivanje prisustvovati tom intervjuu.
Svaka cast Alek za organizaciju! "I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." - Michael Jordan |
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